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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.aspieweb.net/uk-coddles-hacker-with-aspergers/#comment-15106</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calling him a terrorist is lunacy. He did commit a crime against the united states and should be punished, but a terrorist is someone who intends to cause massive harm and death to civilians. But he did do wrong.

OTOH, I do agree that there is too much government secrecy that really does leave us wondering about our own safety and what is really going on. When a hacker discovered Ms. Palin was engaged in shenanigans with her E-Mail, he did a great service to this country. As far as I am concerned, the right to Privacy does not extend to active politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling him a terrorist is lunacy. He did commit a crime against the united states and should be punished, but a terrorist is someone who intends to cause massive harm and death to civilians. But he did do wrong.</p>
<p>OTOH, I do agree that there is too much government secrecy that really does leave us wondering about our own safety and what is really going on. When a hacker discovered Ms. Palin was engaged in shenanigans with her E-Mail, he did a great service to this country. As far as I am concerned, the right to Privacy does not extend to active politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: McKinnon and Independance Day</title>
		<link>http://www.aspieweb.net/uk-coddles-hacker-with-aspergers/#comment-11977</link>
		<dc:creator>McKinnon and Independance Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] would like to dedicate this post to Gary McKinnon, the idiot who thinks that hacking the United States Military forces is an acceptable deed.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] would like to dedicate this post to Gary McKinnon, the idiot who thinks that hacking the United States Military forces is an acceptable deed.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nissa Annakindt</title>
		<link>http://www.aspieweb.net/uk-coddles-hacker-with-aspergers/#comment-11637</link>
		<dc:creator>Nissa Annakindt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having an autism spectrum disorder isn&#039;t like being psychotic!  This fellow is just making it hard for a lot of autistic people to avoid bigotry and discrimination based on our &#039;disability&#039;/neurodiversity.

McKinnon can and will get a fair trial in the US.  If he is convicted, he can get proper accomodation for any level of disability he has within the prison system.  If he committed the crime, however, he has chosen by that action to do the time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having an autism spectrum disorder isn&#8217;t like being psychotic!  This fellow is just making it hard for a lot of autistic people to avoid bigotry and discrimination based on our &#8216;disability&#8217;/neurodiversity.</p>
<p>McKinnon can and will get a fair trial in the US.  If he is convicted, he can get proper accomodation for any level of disability he has within the prison system.  If he committed the crime, however, he has chosen by that action to do the time!</p>
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		<title>By: AspieWeb Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.aspieweb.net/uk-coddles-hacker-with-aspergers/#comment-9046</link>
		<dc:creator>AspieWeb Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@chaoticidealism:

Hacking into government comptuers is considered electronic warfare, which can be considered an act of war.  Espionage is obtaining information that is meant to be secret.... wait Gary McKinnon did that too.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@chaoticidealism:</p>
<p>Hacking into government comptuers is considered electronic warfare, which can be considered an act of war.  Espionage is obtaining information that is meant to be secret&#8230;. wait Gary McKinnon did that too&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: AspieWeb Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.aspieweb.net/uk-coddles-hacker-with-aspergers/#comment-9045</link>
		<dc:creator>AspieWeb Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Timelord

I have Aspergers, I&#039;ve been in jail before.  Yea I&#039;ve messed up in life.  I survived and learned from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Timelord</p>
<p>I have Aspergers, I&#8217;ve been in jail before.  Yea I&#8217;ve messed up in life.  I survived and learned from it.</p>
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		<title>By: AspieWeb Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.aspieweb.net/uk-coddles-hacker-with-aspergers/#comment-9044</link>
		<dc:creator>AspieWeb Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@laurentius-rex:

The US is playing by the rules, Gary McKinnon did not and he still is not by refusing to pay the consequences.

The lack of security has nothing to do with justification on Gary McKinnon&#039;s attack on the US Military.  If you leave your house unlocked can I go in and steal everything?  Your house wasn&#039;t locked!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@laurentius-rex:</p>
<p>The US is playing by the rules, Gary McKinnon did not and he still is not by refusing to pay the consequences.</p>
<p>The lack of security has nothing to do with justification on Gary McKinnon&#8217;s attack on the US Military.  If you leave your house unlocked can I go in and steal everything?  Your house wasn&#8217;t locked!</p>
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		<title>By: laurentius-rex</title>
		<link>http://www.aspieweb.net/uk-coddles-hacker-with-aspergers/#comment-9026</link>
		<dc:creator>laurentius-rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zack in order to know the details of what McKinnon allegedly did, you would need access to those same computers. If you take everything that has been said by the military as truth you would be a very deluded person indeed.

The US is not playing by the rules in any of this and similar cases, and are compromising the ability to defend by refusing to release evidence using security as an excuse.

If the Us was that vulnerable I say again that other heads should roll for allowing the system to be compromised in the first place.

In the Uk and I daresay the US as well there have been numerable cases of military losing laptops and discs causing at least as much if not more damage than Gary McKinnon.

Any properly configured system would have regular secure backups, so that it would be impossible to destroy more than the most immediate and least sensitive data. If the US military is or was unable to do that, then I don&#039;t think they have much hope against China&#039;s hackers and saboteurs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zack in order to know the details of what McKinnon allegedly did, you would need access to those same computers. If you take everything that has been said by the military as truth you would be a very deluded person indeed.</p>
<p>The US is not playing by the rules in any of this and similar cases, and are compromising the ability to defend by refusing to release evidence using security as an excuse.</p>
<p>If the Us was that vulnerable I say again that other heads should roll for allowing the system to be compromised in the first place.</p>
<p>In the Uk and I daresay the US as well there have been numerable cases of military losing laptops and discs causing at least as much if not more damage than Gary McKinnon.</p>
<p>Any properly configured system would have regular secure backups, so that it would be impossible to destroy more than the most immediate and least sensitive data. If the US military is or was unable to do that, then I don&#8217;t think they have much hope against China&#8217;s hackers and saboteurs</p>
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		<title>By: Timelord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timelord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zach, if Gary was sent to jail - he would die. Guarenteed. An Aspie wouldn&#039;t last five minutes in such an environment and he knows it. That if anything should prevent a jail term. However there does need to be punishment of some sort. You mentioned hospital and treatment therein for whatever ails him. Not Aspergers itself - but rather what appears to be a severe alienation with reality. Something that is not exclusive to the Autistic Spectrum.

One more thing - wouldn&#039;t you be embarrassed if someone hacked into your super secret computer system? Seriously? I would be - acutely so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach, if Gary was sent to jail &#8211; he would die. Guarenteed. An Aspie wouldn&#8217;t last five minutes in such an environment and he knows it. That if anything should prevent a jail term. However there does need to be punishment of some sort. You mentioned hospital and treatment therein for whatever ails him. Not Aspergers itself &#8211; but rather what appears to be a severe alienation with reality. Something that is not exclusive to the Autistic Spectrum.</p>
<p>One more thing &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t you be embarrassed if someone hacked into your super secret computer system? Seriously? I would be &#8211; acutely so.</p>
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		<title>By: chaoticidealism</title>
		<link>http://www.aspieweb.net/uk-coddles-hacker-with-aspergers/#comment-9017</link>
		<dc:creator>chaoticidealism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the beauty of having a constitution and a written set of laws that stipulate people should be treated equally (as both the US and Great Britain have) is that everybody gets treated the same when it comes to criminal prosecution. It doesn&#039;t matter if you steal a wallet from a Senator or from the retired janitor down the street; you&#039;re breaking the same law and it&#039;s treated the same way. Motive comes into sentencing, of course, and so does your mental status and the reasons behind your committing the crime.

Unless a crime is committed against a government for the sole reason that it IS a government--that is, assassination, terrorism, espionage, or an act of war--then the government is the same as any other victim. The crime&#039;s the same.

Granted: the system doesn&#039;t work in real life the way it does in theory. The guy who stole the wallet from the Senator is more likely to be prosecuted and receive a harsher sentence. But it shouldn&#039;t be that way; a crime is a crime, under the law. Just because the US military is powerful doesn&#039;t mean that the sentence should be more severe.

If it had really been a case of espionage or terrorism, I would understand extradition; in this case, if it&#039;s illegal in his home country (where the act was committed in the first place) there&#039;s no reason to bring him here, too. Generally, a crime committed against an American entity by someone who never enters the US can&#039;t even be prosecuted here anyway. It&#039;s not our jurisdiction.

Leave the guy to be sentenced in his own country--our prisons are full enough already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the beauty of having a constitution and a written set of laws that stipulate people should be treated equally (as both the US and Great Britain have) is that everybody gets treated the same when it comes to criminal prosecution. It doesn&#8217;t matter if you steal a wallet from a Senator or from the retired janitor down the street; you&#8217;re breaking the same law and it&#8217;s treated the same way. Motive comes into sentencing, of course, and so does your mental status and the reasons behind your committing the crime.</p>
<p>Unless a crime is committed against a government for the sole reason that it IS a government&#8211;that is, assassination, terrorism, espionage, or an act of war&#8211;then the government is the same as any other victim. The crime&#8217;s the same.</p>
<p>Granted: the system doesn&#8217;t work in real life the way it does in theory. The guy who stole the wallet from the Senator is more likely to be prosecuted and receive a harsher sentence. But it shouldn&#8217;t be that way; a crime is a crime, under the law. Just because the US military is powerful doesn&#8217;t mean that the sentence should be more severe.</p>
<p>If it had really been a case of espionage or terrorism, I would understand extradition; in this case, if it&#8217;s illegal in his home country (where the act was committed in the first place) there&#8217;s no reason to bring him here, too. Generally, a crime committed against an American entity by someone who never enters the US can&#8217;t even be prosecuted here anyway. It&#8217;s not our jurisdiction.</p>
<p>Leave the guy to be sentenced in his own country&#8211;our prisons are full enough already.</p>
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		<title>By: AspieWeb Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.aspieweb.net/uk-coddles-hacker-with-aspergers/#comment-9014</link>
		<dc:creator>AspieWeb Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@laurentius-rex

McKinnon did not embarrass the US - he attacked its national defense systems.

@Martin-Berg http://www.tech-faq.com/cyber-warfare.shtml</description>
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<p>McKinnon did not embarrass the US &#8211; he attacked its national defense systems.</p>
<p>@Martin-Berg <a href="http://www.tech-faq.com/cyber-warfare.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.tech-faq.com/cyber-warfare.shtml</a></p>
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