Travolta, Scientology and Autism

by admin on January 8, 2009

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Just a week after John Travolta’s son Jett – who many believe to have Autism died many blogs are spinning because of there membership in the church of scientology.  I think its time to put some rumours to rest here.Randi Kaye of CNN’s Anderson Cooper: 360 spoke to the Church of Scientology on its beliefs regarding Autism and other medical diagnosis.  A church spokesman said “[scientologists get conventional medical treatment for medical conditions” and “use prescription drugs as prescribed by a doctor”.  When asked about the church’s beliefs regarding neurological conditions like Autism the church answered “medical diagnoses are based on medical conditions. Psychiatric conditions are subjective”.

Kaye also asked the church if they recognized Autism as a diagnosis and the spokesman for the church answered “the church does not involve itself in diagnosis or classification of any medical condition”  Apparently Jett has been taking medications for his seizures which according to John Travolta’s lawyer had recently quit working.

Did Jett Travolta Have Autism?

According to the Article ” Jett’s parents have always denied their son was autistic” – so as far as I’m concerned the answer is no.  I however would like your opinion on if the parents of a child believe that there child does not have Autism should they be hounded like this – irregardless of their celebrity status?

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1 CS January 8, 2009 at 9:04 am

I’m beginning to believe your looking for click bait rather than an honest discussion.

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2 AspieWeb Admin January 8, 2009 at 9:08 am

What do you mean by ‘clickbait’?

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3 Peter Jansen January 8, 2009 at 10:22 am

Found this site by way of WrongPlanet.com

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4 Autumn January 8, 2009 at 10:53 am

I feel there’s not much of a difference between believing he does or doesn’t..both are beliefs.. what if they simply don’t make it an issue for themselves. Do you think it is possible they just didn’t recognize it as an issue? Maybe they saw Jett as human being instead of a ‘disabled’ or ‘gifted’ or even an ‘ill’ person.. and until their hand felt ‘forced’ enough they went on faith..

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5 CS January 8, 2009 at 1:09 pm

click bait: Any content or feature within a website that “baits” a viewer to click. “Anything interesting enough to catch a person’s attention”.

All those double underlined values in your posts, are advertisements and a classic example of click bait.

“Apparently Jett has been taking medications for his seizures which according to John Travolta’s lawyer had recently quit working.”

Not true, they quit more than a year ago according to those same attorneys. I’m afraid you, like most, have been suckered by the PR machine that began as soon as Jett died. Frankly I don’t give a shit about the Travolta’s. I care that a child died a horrible death, a child that died without ever having been able to give consent to the method which he died by (i.e. giving consent to stop epileptic medicine that could have prevented his death, if you believe in the coroner’s report, which I don’t). But, we will never know, because Jett was cremated. I mourn for Jett, the voiceless and dead victim of neglect. And to Autumn, autistics are human.

Want to check on the probably of death by epileptic seizure absent medication, google it. For parents that don’t want to give the medication, you can get funding for canines trained to warn of a seizure about to occur.

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6 CS January 8, 2009 at 1:10 pm

Great, your blog even turned my comment into click bait. Beautiful.

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7 AspieWeb Admin January 8, 2009 at 1:17 pm

@CS:

On clickbait:

I’m not going to lie and deny that more advertising has been added, but this is due to some financial concerns in my personal life.

I apologize if that offends you or anyone else but I have to survive.

On Jett Travolta:

If you can provide cited information on the attorneys saying that I would gladly edit this story.

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8 Autumn January 8, 2009 at 1:24 pm

CS.. Scientologists are human too.. with or without our diagnosises or labels. We’re all human.

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9 CS January 8, 2009 at 1:42 pm

“I apologize if that offends you or anyone else but I have to survive.”

Advertising doesn’t offend me, deceit does. Those double underlines are deceitful. Now, when I clicked on this there is an advertisement for Scientology in a banner ad along with autism detoxification, Generation Rescue, and hyperbarics.

“If you can provide cited information on the attorneys saying that I would gladly edit this story.”

You came up with the post, you shouldn’t ask me to get your facts straight.

From Autumn: “CS.. Scientologists are human too.. with or without our diagnosises or labels. We’re all human.”

No one said scientologists aren’t human, you stated that autistic people aren’t human, glad you outed yourself as a scientologist. Scientology denies our existence and blames us for our own form of humanity Autumn, so take your science fiction cult arguments somewhere where they give a shit.

See Zack, the scientologist PR machine at work!

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10 AspieWeb Admin January 8, 2009 at 1:59 pm

@CS:

I’m sorry you find it deceitful, how would you recommend I make money in order to survive? I encourage you to cntact me with suggestions.

As far as Autumns comments they can also be interpreted as while disabled individuals are disabled – they are still human.

I know very well some parents have a hard time admitting their children are disabled, others can be overprotective.

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11 CS January 8, 2009 at 2:19 pm

“As far as Autumns comments they can also be interpreted as while disabled individuals are disabled – they are still human.”

Her statement implies an assumption. Perhaps you should read up on Scientology views on autism.

One of the tenets of Scientology is that psychiatric dianosis are psychosomatic, and can only be treated through spiritual healing. In other words, we cause our own autism. It’s all fake according to scientology.

Support of scientology is inconsistent with self advocacy, self identification, and humanity. Remember, this cult came from a science fiction novel. If you want to know the truth about it, a “religion” about to be outlawed in parts of Europe, read the accounts of former scientologists.

“I’m sorry you find it deceitful, how would you recommend I make money in order to survive? I encourage you to cntact me with suggestions.”

The manner and ethics you utilize to “survive” are entirely up to you. If you wish to advertise anti-autistic websites, that is your “perogative” as Bobby Brown famously sang.

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12 AspieWeb Admin January 8, 2009 at 2:34 pm

@CS:

Your statement implies an assumption as well that Autumn is part of the scientology church.

As far as the advertising goes, certain ads do concern me and I have been looking for solutions in keeping an income while ridding myself of them.

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13 CS January 8, 2009 at 2:41 pm

“CS.. Scientologists are human too.. with or without our diagnosises or labels. We’re all human.”

Scientologists…with or without OUR diagnosis or labels….

I don’t know about your grammatical understanding, but mine says that they were referring to themselves as a scientologist.

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14 AspieWeb Admin January 8, 2009 at 2:45 pm

@CS:

Or they could also be attempting to say:
“with or without our diagnosis’s or labels. We’re all human.” “

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15 CS January 8, 2009 at 2:51 pm

Perhaps, but I take them for what they wrote, not how I want to interpret what they wrote.

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16 CS January 8, 2009 at 2:59 pm

Z: “As far as Autumns comments they can also be interpreted as while disabled individuals are disabled – they are still human.”

Autumn: “Maybe they saw Jett as human being instead of a ‘disabled’”

I’m “a disabled” and I’m human. I’m not a disabled with humaness, I’m “a disabled” human.

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17 Autumn January 9, 2009 at 3:23 pm

I’m sorry my words confused you so much.. I’m not very good at these sorts of things. I never seem to get my words out the way they are suppose to be. I don’t really know the first thing about scientology, so no I do not claim to be one. My son is diagnosed as a classic Aspie.. his doc assumed he inherited it from me. I still am not convinced a diagnosis has a lot of meaning for my son or any of us in our family. He has always been treated like anyone deserves to be treated. We love him and that is most important.. with or without labels or standards. Something tells me you will find fault with all this.. which is ok.. it is who you are. It’s human too.. No offense meant.

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18 KM January 12, 2009 at 3:12 am

I liked your article and if I don’t want to see the ads, I just don’t click on them…it’s that simple. The “click bait” certainly doesn’t take away from the point and/or purpose of the story. My son was recently diagnosed with Asperger’s. It was a long hard and frustrating journey. A journey where I was told, year after year, that I was being melodramatic, over-reacting, too overbearing, etc. whenever I suggested autism and/or asperger’s to his doctors. Does that make me irresponsible? Does that make me deserving of hateful comments? No. Until you walk in someone who you openly denegrate shoes, don’t make assumptions about people, their beliefs, their motives, or their actions.

To the admin.- you don’t owe anyone an explanation as to why there are ads in your article. You don’t have to engage in a back-and-forth with someone who apparently loves to argue for the sake of arguing.

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