Comments on: Open Letter To Free Gary Movement http://www.aspieweb.net/open-letter-to-free-gary-movement/ The Aspergers And Autism Web Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:08:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Autism Advocates Joe Mele, Andrew Ackner Defending Child Porn http://www.aspieweb.net/open-letter-to-free-gary-movement/#comment-16015 Autism Advocates Joe Mele, Andrew Ackner Defending Child Porn Thu, 02 Dec 2010 03:28:23 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=130#comment-16015 [...] – which is false as another hacker with Aspergers was recently sentenced.  Its really appalling to me the level of crap they will say to keep Gary McKinnon from serving [...] [...] – which is false as another hacker with Aspergers was recently sentenced.  Its really appalling to me the level of crap they will say to keep Gary McKinnon from serving [...]

]]> By: Autism Advocate Defends Dr. Nick Dubin http://www.aspieweb.net/open-letter-to-free-gary-movement/#comment-15663 Autism Advocate Defends Dr. Nick Dubin Mon, 18 Oct 2010 05:55:36 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=130#comment-15663 [...] by the Autism Rights movement who quickly jump to defend guilty individuals such as Dr. Nick Dubin, guilty by admission hacker Gary McKinnon and others.  These people are demanding equal rights and opportunities for people on the Autism [...] [...] by the Autism Rights movement who quickly jump to defend guilty individuals such as Dr. Nick Dubin, guilty by admission hacker Gary McKinnon and others.  These people are demanding equal rights and opportunities for people on the Autism [...]

]]> By: Elaine http://www.aspieweb.net/open-letter-to-free-gary-movement/#comment-15138 Elaine Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:56:31 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=130#comment-15138 Oh dear. No-one is arguing that Asperger's excuses Gary's actions. Not one of Gary McKinnon's representatives has ever argued that he should not face justice for what he did. Justice for Gary is what FreeGary supporters are calling for, nothing more. The argument of the FreeGary movement is as follows: It has been shown in court that he did not shut anything down, did not cause a dollar worth of damange, and did not access any systems that were sensitive enough to have been protected with basic security. His alleged crimes have been shown in court to be grossly exaggerated by US prosecutors, whose allegations of extradition offences have been roundly refuted in open court. The fact is that he did not commit an extraditable offence, and that is why there is opposition to his proposed extradition. To support the extradition of Gary McKinnon is to disregard the facts, to disregard the rule of law, to disregard natural justice, and to disregard human rights. Oh dear. No-one is arguing that Asperger’s excuses Gary’s actions. Not one of Gary McKinnon’s representatives has ever argued that he should not face justice for what he did. Justice for Gary is what FreeGary supporters are calling for, nothing more.

The argument of the FreeGary movement is as follows:
It has been shown in court that he did not shut anything down, did not cause a dollar worth of damange, and did not access any systems that were sensitive enough to have been protected with basic security. His alleged crimes have been shown in court to be grossly exaggerated by US prosecutors, whose allegations of extradition offences have been roundly refuted in open court.
The fact is that he did not commit an extraditable offence, and that is why there is opposition to his proposed extradition.

To support the extradition of Gary McKinnon is to disregard the facts, to disregard the rule of law, to disregard natural justice, and to disregard human rights.

]]> By: sentinal http://www.aspieweb.net/open-letter-to-free-gary-movement/#comment-14092 sentinal Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:27:10 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=130#comment-14092 NO the risk was by the US , what sort of idiotic state action deems it sensible to put clasified info ont he fcking interent it should of been VPN. it risked no lives, it was NASA not the NSA , are you aware of the actions of US state hacking into systems.... This is just wrong nobody does something like this seriously thinkig of harm. :( his crime was not being treated with the state care that should have been provided NO the risk was by the US , what sort of idiotic state action deems it sensible to put clasified info ont he fcking interent it should of been VPN. it risked no lives, it was NASA not the NSA , are you aware of the actions of US state hacking into systems….
This is just wrong nobody does something like this seriously thinkig of harm. :( his crime was not being treated with the state care that should have been provided

]]> By: Andy http://www.aspieweb.net/open-letter-to-free-gary-movement/#comment-12326 Andy Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:24:34 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=130#comment-12326 Zach, no one is arguing that Gary should not face punishment, the question is should his Asperger's be considered as mitigation for a lenient sentence, and should he be allowed to serve his sentence in a UK low security prison, which will have a less detrimental effect on his mental health. So far the American authorities have not conceded that Asperger's will be admissable as mitigation, or that he can serve his sentence in the UK. I fully agree that he should have some accountability, but I also believe his Asperger's should be taken account of too. Zach, no one is arguing that Gary should not face punishment, the question is should his Asperger’s be considered as mitigation for a lenient sentence, and should he be allowed to serve his sentence in a UK low security prison, which will have a less detrimental effect on his mental health. So far the American authorities have not conceded that Asperger’s will be admissable as mitigation, or that he can serve his sentence in the UK. I fully agree that he should have some accountability, but I also believe his Asperger’s should be taken account of too.

]]> By: Malika http://www.aspieweb.net/open-letter-to-free-gary-movement/#comment-12306 Malika Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:49:32 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=130#comment-12306 Zach, it was never Gary McKinnon who risked anyone's life. It was the people who were responsible for protecting those computer systems. Face it, if McKinnon was able to hack into those computers, others -perhaps far more dangerous others- could've done it too. McKinnon had no murderous intentions, and he thus poses no risk for national security. In fact, his hack exposed the failing security of those important computer systems, causing the people responsible to look into more secure ways of protection sensitive information. So Gary McKinnon has actually played a bit part in making the U.S.A. safer! He does not deserve severe punishment, because he is NOT a dangerous criminal. Making 'an example' of him is cruel and inhumane. By the way, you yourself call McKinnon's act 'childish' thus contradicting yourself..... The fact that you have asperger's does not automatically make you an expert on the subject. I know quite a few intelligent, morally upright perfectly well-functioning computer-nerdy adults who are quite unable to oversee and anticipate possible consequences of their digital activities. And not all of them even have any kind of autism-related diagnosis! Zach, it was never Gary McKinnon who risked anyone’s life. It was the people who were responsible for protecting those computer systems. Face it, if McKinnon was able to hack into those computers, others -perhaps far more dangerous others- could’ve done it too. McKinnon had no murderous intentions, and he thus poses no risk for national security.
In fact, his hack exposed the failing security of those important computer systems, causing the people responsible to look into more secure ways of protection sensitive information.
So Gary McKinnon has actually played a bit part in making the U.S.A. safer!

He does not deserve severe punishment, because he is NOT a dangerous criminal. Making ‘an example’ of him is cruel and inhumane.

By the way, you yourself call McKinnon’s act ‘childish’ thus contradicting yourself…..
The fact that you have asperger’s does not automatically make you an expert on the subject. I know quite a few intelligent, morally upright perfectly well-functioning computer-nerdy adults who are quite unable to oversee and anticipate possible consequences of their digital activities. And not all of them even have any kind of autism-related diagnosis!

]]> By: Anna http://www.aspieweb.net/open-letter-to-free-gary-movement/#comment-12302 Anna Sun, 02 Aug 2009 08:21:45 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=130#comment-12302 If Gary McKinnon did not have the mental capacity to realise that his actions could or did threaten the safety of the United States, then he is not capable of standing trial. It's as simple as that. Anna If Gary McKinnon did not have the mental capacity to realise that his actions could or did threaten the safety of the United States, then he is not capable of standing trial. It’s as simple as that.

Anna

]]> By: Zach http://www.aspieweb.net/open-letter-to-free-gary-movement/#comment-12282 Zach Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:17:56 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=130#comment-12282 A childish act that risked lives, and the safety of the United States. A childish act that risked lives, and the safety of the United States.

]]> By: Anna http://www.aspieweb.net/open-letter-to-free-gary-movement/#comment-12281 Anna Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:14:56 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=130#comment-12281 My son is almost 40, is highly intelligent, extremely articulate, and very accomplished technically in his own field, yet his social 'age' is more like 11, and yes, he has Asperger's syndrome. Zach, just because you have the mental capacity to understand something does not mean others have as well. I am horrified that someone with Asperger's is to be extradited for such a childish and childlike act. I wish him well. My son is almost 40, is highly intelligent, extremely articulate, and very accomplished technically in his own field, yet his social ‘age’ is more like 11, and yes, he has Asperger’s syndrome.

Zach, just because you have the mental capacity to understand something does not mean others have as well.

I am horrified that someone with Asperger’s is to be extradited for such a childish and childlike act. I wish him well.

]]> By: BCA http://www.aspieweb.net/open-letter-to-free-gary-movement/#comment-2505 BCA Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:10:07 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=130#comment-2505 Goodness me, such venom spitting. Has a psychological profile of Gary been released. Can anyone here tell me if Gary has an immature psychology, his perception of mischief and criminal acts. Has Gary got comorbidity disorders with his AS. He used old technology to access the Govt system, stated he was looking for UFO information. Gary appears quite child like and naive in personality. Since dx with mild autism (AS) at 47 years of age I have met the most beautiful people like me. We have an immature psychology(Child like qualites)and are fearful of, "The Parent Type Personalities", who are judgemental and harsh towards our actions throughout life. I believe Gary should be afforded some compassion and understanding from the ASD community. I am not going to debate the wrong of his actions, but you are judging him harshly because he is ASDian. Stop trying to fit in or be accepted by the NT world. Sacrificing an ASDian will not achieve this goal. Gary McKinnon you have my support and understanding. Goodness me, such venom spitting. Has a psychological profile of Gary been released.

Can anyone here tell me if Gary has an immature psychology, his perception of mischief and criminal acts. Has Gary got comorbidity disorders with his AS.

He used old technology to access the Govt system, stated he was looking for UFO information. Gary appears quite child like and naive in personality.

Since dx with mild autism (AS) at 47 years of age I have met the most beautiful people like me. We have an immature psychology(Child like qualites)and are fearful of, “The Parent Type Personalities”, who are judgemental and harsh towards our actions throughout life.

I believe Gary should be afforded some compassion and understanding from the ASD community. I am not going to debate the wrong of his actions, but you are judging him harshly because he is ASDian.

Stop trying to fit in or be accepted by the NT world. Sacrificing an ASDian will not achieve this goal.

Gary McKinnon you have my support and understanding.

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