Comments on: McKinnon Step Closer to Extradition http://www.aspieweb.net/mckinnon-step-closer-to-extradition/ The Aspergers And Autism Web Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:08:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Theo http://www.aspieweb.net/mckinnon-step-closer-to-extradition/#comment-14166 Theo Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:20:20 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1450#comment-14166 That's really not the point. What if he had gotten a hold of more serious information and someone hacked his computer?! It is not a minor crime to hack into a country's defense system! I'm sorry! And the country wronged has the right to be the one's to seek justice. That’s really not the point. What if he had gotten a hold of more serious information and someone hacked his computer?! It is not a minor crime to hack into a country’s defense system! I’m sorry! And the country wronged has the right to be the one’s to seek justice.

]]> By: rankersbo http://www.aspieweb.net/mckinnon-step-closer-to-extradition/#comment-14165 rankersbo Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:54:41 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1450#comment-14165 That's actually an argument against extradition. The court in a trial should be impartial, seeking the truth. They shouldn't be biased toward the victim. There wasn't any serious harm done, other than wounding of the pride of the pentagon. McKinnon has highlighted weaknesses in such a way that it is often argued he did them a favour. That’s actually an argument against extradition. The court in a trial should be impartial, seeking the truth. They shouldn’t be biased toward the victim.

There wasn’t any serious harm done, other than wounding of the pride of the pentagon. McKinnon has highlighted weaknesses in such a way that it is often argued he did them a favour.

]]> By: Theo http://www.aspieweb.net/mckinnon-step-closer-to-extradition/#comment-14164 Theo Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:28:37 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1450#comment-14164 Yes there is. The crime was not perpetrated against his own goverment. It was perpetrated on OURS! And therefore, as the US was the victom of the crime so to speak, we have the right to try him! Why would his own goverment try him for something that didn't have anything to do with them? That doesn't make any sense to me. Yes there is. The crime was not perpetrated against his own goverment. It was perpetrated on OURS! And therefore, as the US was the victom of the crime so to speak, we have the right to try him! Why would his own goverment try him for something that didn’t have anything to do with them? That doesn’t make any sense to me.

]]> By: rankersbo http://www.aspieweb.net/mckinnon-step-closer-to-extradition/#comment-14163 rankersbo Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:49:47 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1450#comment-14163 There is little argument that he should not be tried. The argument is that he should be tried here in his own country. There is no reason why that should not happen. There is little argument that he should not be tried.

The argument is that he should be tried here in his own country.

There is no reason why that should not happen.

]]> By: rankersbo http://www.aspieweb.net/mckinnon-step-closer-to-extradition/#comment-14162 rankersbo Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:48:26 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1450#comment-14162 The distress caused by being tried in a foriegn country would impede his ability to defend himself and therefore impinge on his right to a fair trial. Everyone is innocent until proved guilty, and is entitled to a fair trial. As far as the prosecution are concerned, there is no reason the trail should not be conducted in the UK. We have excellent court facilities of which they can make use. Why shouldn't his trial take place in the UK? The distress caused by being tried in a foriegn country would impede his ability to defend himself and therefore impinge on his right to a fair trial.

Everyone is innocent until proved guilty, and is entitled to a fair trial.

As far as the prosecution are concerned, there is no reason the trail should not be conducted in the UK. We have excellent court facilities of which they can make use.

Why shouldn’t his trial take place in the UK?

]]> By: Theo http://www.aspieweb.net/mckinnon-step-closer-to-extradition/#comment-14154 Theo Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:44:35 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1450#comment-14154 I do not know but it all sounds like a bunch of bs to me! You committed a crime. And I'm sorry, having AS does not keep you from knowing right and wrong, obession or not! I happen to have an obession with history. This does not mean I'm going to be breaking in to the Smitsonian anytime soon! And if he truly is that clueless, he has more going on then just AS!! Not to mention this gives the curbies more fire power to use against us. "See, they don't understand right from wrong, they are a burden and must be cured!" *rolls eyes* I could slap him for giving them more ammo! Not to mention the fact that he hacked into our military intelligence system! The US goverment would be idiots to not take that seriously! I don't give a shit what this guy has or doesn't have, it does not give him the right to do that! Everything a person does, either good or bad, has it's consequences, and just because he has AS does not mean that he is exempt from his! And that is Theo's rant. :P I do not know but it all sounds like a bunch of bs to me! You committed a crime. And I’m sorry, having AS does not keep you from knowing right and wrong, obession or not! I happen to have an obession with history. This does not mean I’m going to be breaking in to the Smitsonian anytime soon!

And if he truly is that clueless, he has more going on then just AS!! Not to mention this gives the curbies more fire power to use against us. “See, they don’t understand right from wrong, they are a burden and must be cured!” *rolls eyes* I could slap him for giving them more ammo!

Not to mention the fact that he hacked into our military intelligence system! The US goverment would be idiots to not take that seriously! I don’t give a shit what this guy has or doesn’t have, it does not give him the right to do that! Everything a person does, either good or bad, has it’s consequences, and just because he has AS does not mean that he is exempt from his!

And that is Theo’s rant. :P

]]> By: Zach http://www.aspieweb.net/mckinnon-step-closer-to-extradition/#comment-14152 Zach Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:52:21 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1450#comment-14152 Then why is the fact he has Aspergers a major reason that he should not be extradited? Then why is the fact he has Aspergers a major reason that he should not be extradited?

]]> By: rankersbo http://www.aspieweb.net/mckinnon-step-closer-to-extradition/#comment-14148 rankersbo Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:51:43 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1450#comment-14148 I think, essentially, while he has got some of the detail wrong, Zack is right on the fact that this is not an aspergers issue- it's an issue about an unfair, one sided extradition treaty. Aspergers forms only part of the argument as to why it would be fairer on everyone to try the case here. The UK is not a rogue state with kangaroo courts, depite what more extreme news outlets would have you believe. I think this shows we are not all the same. My experience as an aspie, is that I usually see past the emotive interpersonal stuff that shrowds the details of an issue. I'm often treated angrily for treating issues rationally and fairly, when some neurtypicals would prefer me to have an emotive knee-jerk reaction. I think, essentially, while he has got some of the detail wrong, Zack is right on the fact that this is not an aspergers issue- it’s an issue about an unfair, one sided extradition treaty. Aspergers forms only part of the argument as to why it would be fairer on everyone to try the case here.

The UK is not a rogue state with kangaroo courts, depite what more extreme news outlets would have you believe.

I think this shows we are not all the same. My experience as an aspie, is that I usually see past the emotive interpersonal stuff that shrowds the details of an issue. I’m often treated angrily for treating issues rationally and fairly, when some neurtypicals would prefer me to have an emotive knee-jerk reaction.

]]> By: Zach http://www.aspieweb.net/mckinnon-step-closer-to-extradition/#comment-14104 Zach Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:46:39 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1450#comment-14104 In the US the crime is always committed at the location of the victim. In the US the crime is always committed at the location of the victim.

]]> By: Timelord http://www.aspieweb.net/mckinnon-step-closer-to-extradition/#comment-14100 Timelord Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:40:11 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1450#comment-14100 Does anyone know if the question of where the crime was committed has been resolved in the courts? It's an important question, because as Rankersbo observed I think it was in the UK - after all, that was where Gary was when he did what he did. But if the US Military is claiming damage to their system is the cause of action, I just wonder if in fact this should be heard criminally. That sounds like a civil action to me, which does not attract a jail term in the US (see for example the civil action against OJ Simpson). Does anyone know which it is? Does anyone know if the question of where the crime was committed has been resolved in the courts? It’s an important question, because as Rankersbo observed I think it was in the UK – after all, that was where Gary was when he did what he did.

But if the US Military is claiming damage to their system is the cause of action, I just wonder if in fact this should be heard criminally. That sounds like a civil action to me, which does not attract a jail term in the US (see for example the civil action against OJ Simpson).

Does anyone know which it is?

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