Comments on: I am out http://www.aspieweb.net/i-am-out/ The Aspergers And Autism Web Thu, 09 Sep 2010 02:53:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Alexa http://www.aspieweb.net/i-am-out/comment-page-1/#comment-13822 Alexa Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:15:11 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1380#comment-13822 "Its not about her age, its about marriage. Christians believe in no sex before marriage." I understand that, I just don't understand why you promised it *to Katelyn's mother too* instead of *just to Katelyn herself.* Why wasn't making the promise to Katelyn herself enough? After all, you say she's 21. Unless a 21-year-old's got some kind of learning disability that hurts his or her ability to make decisions for himself or herself, he or she should be old enough by now to make these decisions for himself or herself. If the 21-year-old still isn't able to make these decisions for himself or herself (a la the 26-year-old described at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7304698.stm ) then whomever has custody of the 21-year-old giving a 3rd person the go-ahead to have marital sex with the 21-year-old would basically be arranging forced marriage and possibly marital rape. “Its not about her age, its about marriage. Christians believe in no sex before marriage.”

I understand that, I just don’t understand why you promised it *to Katelyn’s mother too* instead of *just to Katelyn herself.*

Why wasn’t making the promise to Katelyn herself enough? After all, you say she’s 21.

Unless a 21-year-old’s got some kind of learning disability that hurts his or her ability to make decisions for himself or herself, he or she should be old enough by now to make these decisions for himself or herself. If the 21-year-old still isn’t able to make these decisions for himself or herself (a la the 26-year-old described at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7304698.stm ) then whomever has custody of the 21-year-old giving a 3rd person the go-ahead to have marital sex with the 21-year-old would basically be arranging forced marriage and possibly marital rape.

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]]> By: Zach http://www.aspieweb.net/i-am-out/comment-page-1/#comment-13816 Zach Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:10:58 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1380#comment-13816 I'll try too. I’ll try too.

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]]> By: Clay http://www.aspieweb.net/i-am-out/comment-page-1/#comment-13815 Clay Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:00:16 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1380#comment-13815 Glad you're back with us. But please stop doing that. Take care of yourself. Glad you’re back with us. But please stop doing that. Take care of yourself.

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]]> By: Zach http://www.aspieweb.net/i-am-out/comment-page-1/#comment-13814 Zach Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:59:45 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1380#comment-13814 Its not about her age, its about marriage. Christians believe in no sex before marriage. Katelyn is 21. Its not about her age, its about marriage. Christians believe in no sex before marriage.

Katelyn is 21.

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]]> By: Alexa http://www.aspieweb.net/i-am-out/comment-page-1/#comment-13813 Alexa Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:40:52 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1380#comment-13813 "I made a promise To Katelyn’s parents no sex before marriage. It was not about permission but about values." Refusing to have sex with someone who's too young to consent for herself is about values too. “I made a promise To Katelyn’s parents no sex before marriage. It was not about permission but about values.”

Refusing to have sex with someone who’s too young to consent for herself is about values too.

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]]> By: Zach http://www.aspieweb.net/i-am-out/comment-page-1/#comment-13811 Zach Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:39:26 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1380#comment-13811 I made a promise To Katelyn's parents no sex before marriage. It was not about permission but about values. I made a promise To Katelyn’s parents no sex before marriage. It was not about permission but about values.

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]]> By: Alex http://www.aspieweb.net/i-am-out/comment-page-1/#comment-13810 Alex Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:22:23 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1380#comment-13810 "Plus Suzanne is not at fault, Kate and I had sex and we promised to wait until marriage – a promise we broke and are paying for now." Sex is for grown-ups, not kids. If she was too young to have sex without her mom's permission, then she was too much of a child to have sex at all. If she was adult enough to genuinely consent to sex, then she was too old to need her mom's permission to have sex. “Plus Suzanne is not at fault, Kate and I had sex and we promised to wait until marriage – a promise we broke and are paying for now.”

Sex is for grown-ups, not kids.

If she was too young to have sex without her mom’s permission, then she was too much of a child to have sex at all. If she was adult enough to genuinely consent to sex, then she was too old to need her mom’s permission to have sex.

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]]> By: Zach http://www.aspieweb.net/i-am-out/comment-page-1/#comment-13803 Zach Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:08:29 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1380#comment-13803 My perception of reality was skewed. It has now been adjusted thanks to some help from the hospital. Sure there are reasons I could continue to attack Suzanne, shes not perfect after all - but then I'm far from it as well. My perception of reality was skewed. It has now been adjusted thanks to some help from the hospital.

Sure there are reasons I could continue to attack Suzanne, shes not perfect after all – but then I’m far from it as well.

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]]> By: David N. Andrews M. Ed., C. P. S. E. http://www.aspieweb.net/i-am-out/comment-page-1/#comment-13802 David N. Andrews M. Ed., C. P. S. E. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:14:12 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1380#comment-13802 Welcome to the rest of your life, man. Take care, yeh? Welcome to the rest of your life, man.

Take care, yeh?

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]]> By: Timelord http://www.aspieweb.net/i-am-out/comment-page-1/#comment-13799 Timelord Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:03:19 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=1380#comment-13799 I know now's not the time to debate the point, but in this day and age (even when you promise and I accept that you feel bad about breaking said promise) it's actually quite acceptable in general to have sex before marraige. Yes I know there are consequences, and I assume you are going to face them, and that's the right thing to do. One thing confuses me though - what's changed? Throughout the lead up to November 7, you were painting Suzanne as the bad one and Katelyn as the victim. Now it seems the blame has switched? *stunned look* I know now’s not the time to debate the point, but in this day and age (even when you promise and I accept that you feel bad about breaking said promise) it’s actually quite acceptable in general to have sex before marraige. Yes I know there are consequences, and I assume you are going to face them, and that’s the right thing to do.

One thing confuses me though – what’s changed? Throughout the lead up to November 7, you were painting Suzanne as the bad one and Katelyn as the victim. Now it seems the blame has switched? *stunned look*

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