Comments on: Habitual Liars http://www.aspieweb.net/habitual-liar-disability/ The Aspergers And Autism Web Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:08:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jim http://www.aspieweb.net/habitual-liar-disability/#comment-11949 jim Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:18:58 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=746#comment-11949 similar situation here. She only tells the truth when she slips up. My daughter is my love, but her mom is a manipulative lying girl... thinking about going for full custody.. if I get it, I can tell her when and where, if not, it's still the same world of lies and control... similar situation here. She only tells the truth when she slips up. My daughter is my love, but her mom is a manipulative lying girl… thinking about going for full custody.. if I get it, I can tell her when and where, if not, it’s still the same world of lies and control…

]]> By: Zach http://www.aspieweb.net/habitual-liar-disability/#comment-11917 Zach Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:49:19 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=746#comment-11917 @John: Yes I have considered adoption, but I would want to meet the adoptive parents first and trust them to take care of my child. As far as having her declared unfit thats not something I need to worry about right now and is still 7 months off. @John:

Yes I have considered adoption, but I would want to meet the adoptive parents first and trust them to take care of my child. As far as having her declared unfit thats not something I need to worry about right now and is still 7 months off.

]]> By: John Best http://www.aspieweb.net/habitual-liar-disability/#comment-11902 John Best Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:23:07 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=746#comment-11902 Zach, Have you considered adoption? Have this lunatic declared an unfit mother and send the baby to a good home. Zach,
Have you considered adoption? Have this lunatic declared an unfit mother and send the baby to a good home.

]]> By: Adelaide http://www.aspieweb.net/habitual-liar-disability/#comment-11898 Adelaide Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:10:22 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=746#comment-11898 Disabilities that lend themselves to lying: I don't know that a personality disorder itself is a disability, but several on the Cluster B seem to lead to 'lies by commission' (false positives in the world of science), especially <b>histronic</b> and <b>narcissistic</b>. Reactive Attachment Disorder (in the childhood and adolescents section on the DSM of the day) has a lot of liars. Also the prototypical disorder is <i>pseudological fantastica</i> otherwise known as compulsive lying. I had written something about this in 2006. <a href="http://duponthumanite.livejournal.com/9003.html" rel="nofollow">April 2006 Case Study on Pseudological Fantastica</a> If you have a good understanding of English (or of the language in the majority culture/the one in which you were raised) then that would tend to make you a <i>better</i> liar, rather than a worse one. (Theory of Mind would tend to suggest this). And having a good understanding of what's around you would make you tend to manipulate the gaps. Disabilities that lend themselves to lying:

I don’t know that a personality disorder itself is a disability, but several on the Cluster B seem to lead to ‘lies by commission’ (false positives in the world of science), especially histronic and narcissistic.

Reactive Attachment Disorder (in the childhood and adolescents section on the DSM of the day) has a lot of liars.

Also the prototypical disorder is pseudological fantastica otherwise known as compulsive lying. I had written something about this in 2006.
April 2006 Case Study on Pseudological Fantastica

If you have a good understanding of English (or of the language in the majority culture/the one in which you were raised) then that would tend to make you a better liar, rather than a worse one. (Theory of Mind would tend to suggest this). And having a good understanding of what’s around you would make you tend to manipulate the gaps.

]]> By: Adelaide http://www.aspieweb.net/habitual-liar-disability/#comment-11897 Adelaide Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:01:31 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=746#comment-11897 Anemone and any other readers: There is another book called <i>The Whitest Wall</i> by Jodee Kulp. It has been nominated or maybe won several awards. In my last (<i>Could Be Cousin</i>) I tried to write about a character with FAS/FAE. When I was a girl (2001) I read Teresa Kellerman's work. Anemone and any other readers:

There is another book called The Whitest Wall by Jodee Kulp. It has been nominated or maybe won several awards.

In my last (Could Be Cousin) I tried to write about a character with FAS/FAE.

When I was a girl (2001) I read Teresa Kellerman’s work.

]]> By: Anemone http://www.aspieweb.net/habitual-liar-disability/#comment-11895 Anemone Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:38:31 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=746#comment-11895 Sorry if this is useless. I usually feel like I'm blathering, here. Years ago I read a novel by Charlotte Vale Allen called Claudia's Shadow, where the narrator is coming to terms with having had a sister with FAS. This sister was deceptive and promiscuous, too, so I wondered whether this was a pattern or not. (The novel also left me wondering what it was like for my siblings with me being a crip.) I just checked Wikipedia and they cited a study where FAS subjects had high rates of criminal and sexual misbehaviour. You're probably already familiar with this page. So maybe for FAS this is a pattern. If you haven't seen the novel, you might like it. Sorry if this is useless. I usually feel like I’m blathering, here. Years ago I read a novel by Charlotte Vale Allen called Claudia’s Shadow, where the narrator is coming to terms with having had a sister with FAS. This sister was deceptive and promiscuous, too, so I wondered whether this was a pattern or not. (The novel also left me wondering what it was like for my siblings with me being a crip.)

I just checked Wikipedia and they cited a study where FAS subjects had high rates of criminal and sexual misbehaviour. You’re probably already familiar with this page. So maybe for FAS this is a pattern. If you haven’t seen the novel, you might like it.

]]> By: Anemone http://www.aspieweb.net/habitual-liar-disability/#comment-11894 Anemone Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:27:03 +0000 http://www.aspieweb.net/?p=746#comment-11894 Sometimes I lie when people expect me to say something in particular or ask me if I think/want something in particular, and it's easier to go along with them than figure out how to explain something different. Usually, though, I'm pathologically honest. (No doubt one of the defects of autism.) It's possible some disabilities lend themselves to more lying, but I don't know of any off hand. Sometimes I lie when people expect me to say something in particular or ask me if I think/want something in particular, and it’s easier to go along with them than figure out how to explain something different.

Usually, though, I’m pathologically honest. (No doubt one of the defects of autism.) It’s possible some disabilities lend themselves to more lying, but I don’t know of any off hand.

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